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On a Thursday night some people like to relax from a hard day's work, perhaps veg out in front of the television or hit on much younger girls on Myspace. Creationists, on the other hand, like to think. They think about all the scientific evidence exists for the scientific fact of evolution then envision the exact opposite. Through those thought processes they develop what they like to call scientific creationism.

Scientific creationism is an oxymoron, much like large shrimp or compassionate conservative. However an invite was provided to the Maggot Punks through the Kansas Atheist Forum for a seminar on the scientific evidence for creationism. Well I thought, "Hey, I've waited years for a creationist to provide the scientific evidence for a 6,000 year old Earth." So I headed out, you know,

for the educational value of good science.

I was disappointed, but I can't say I wasn't surprised about the lack of good science. In fact to say young earth creationism (YEC) is pseudoscience does a disservice to hard working astrologers, holocaust deniers and $cientologists. Astrologers know about planetary orbits and have a rudimentary understanding of some astronomy, holocaust deniers accept that millions of Jews died in WW2, and $cientologists have the word science in their name and have calculated the age of Tom Cruise's next girlfriend will be 12 years old.

I can't remember who led the lecture but he did mention how he studied engineering. Okay, he has some sort of science background but not in biology, astronomy, anthropology,

paleotology or any other scientific field that touches upon evolution (astronomy really doesn't but he talked about astronomical issues). Also present was WSU professor Dr. Paul Ackerman who teaches psychology and has written some books on creationism.

There won't be much to debunk since the lecture was often disrupted by one eager YEC in the back row. This YEC caused so much disruption that the head of the lecture got fed up and shut everything down. So I'll lay down the science now.

One comment by the YEC was the Dr. Colin Patterson, curator at the British Museum of Natural History, said of his book, Evolution, "I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil

or living, I would certainly have included them. . .I will lay it on the line, There is not one such fossil for which one might make a watertight argument."

While true he did say that anyone who reads the book will be aware that he is a supporter of evolution and the existence of transitional forms. Patterson was quoted in a letter to a creationist and Patterson felt that there would be no ample evidence to ever convince a creationist who was dead set against any scientific evidence. Dr. Patterson is dead now but he did remark in a letter that the creationist's perception of his beliefs is false.

Another claim by a creationist in the lecture is that Dr. Ernst Haeckel drew phony images of different species in their embryonic stages of development. The young YEC in the back of the room held up pictures. I inquired if he thought the embryos

didn't have tails and gill slits. He said they didn't despite the picture he was holding, comparing Haeckel's drawing with photos clearly showed tails on all species. I informed his that humans are sometimes born with tails which fall off soon after birth (or must be cut off in some cases). He then decided that he couldn't address that so he changed my position to say that I was mentioning the coccyx and how it wasn't a vestigal organ. You see, the tactic of a YEC is to simply change the argument.

The point is that if humans didn't evolve then why would they ever develop tails? For that matter why do we get goosebumps which serve the purpose of raising the fur to provide more insulation. Since humans don't have fur there shouldn't be goosebumps. Yet we still get them which provide no purpose whatsoever. If humans have no aquatic ancestary then why do our embryos have anything remembling gill slits?

Those are a couple examples of YEC factual errors. Others included the false claim that the Earth's magnetic field decays but doesn't renew, humans reproduce exponentially, abiogensis is relevant to evolution and so on. The YEC never presented one scientific fact in favor of creationism. Instead they postulated tired old arguments that have been debunked over and over again. The creationists whine about not being published in peer-reviewed scientific journals. With scholarship like this why should they? Creationists aren't published because they are Christian, many Christians are evolutionists, they are rejected because they are piss poor scientists.

Book of the day:The Ancestor's Tale: A Pilgrimage to the Dawn of Evolution by Richard Dawkins

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